# ubuntu has 002 for non-system users, debian has 022. 002 makes groups
# be rw instead of r.
#
+# I think the actual setting is somewhere in the pam settings, I haven't
+# bothered to figure that out.
+#
# ubuntu is more user friendly when using multiple users. However,
# it also makes it so if you create a file as a regular user then move
# it to become a system file, it's got slightly wrong permissions, and