-# be rw instead of r. One security concern is where some unixes put
-# every user in a same group, so if you copy files there with exact
-# perms, that is probably not what you want. I don't use a system like
-# that. I don't care much either way, but the ubuntu one seems a bit
-# more user friendly.
-if (( EUID >= 1000 )); then
- umask 002
-fi
+# be rw instead of r.
+#
+# I think the actual setting is somewhere in the pam settings, I haven't
+# bothered to figure that out.
+#
+# ubuntu is more user friendly when using multiple users. However,
+# it also makes it so if you create a file as a regular user then move
+# it to become a system file, it's got slightly wrong permissions, and
+# sometimes thing break. Also, copying files between ubuntu and debian
+# makes things inconsistent. So stick with 022 umask always.
+#
+# One security concern is where some unixes put every user in a same
+# group, so if you copy files there with exact perms, that is probably
+# not what you want. I don't use a system like that, so I don't
+# care.
+umask 022
+# this is how we could test for non-system user
+
+#if test "$(id -u)" -ge 1000; then : fi